While millions of Americans last week were clogging roadways, parking lots, and drive-thru's in a show of solidarity for Chick-fil-A's highly publicized anti-gay marriage stance, another tidbit of notable news managed to get shunted aside.
In a bipartisan vote, Congress passed "The Honoring America’s Veterans and Caring for Camp Lejeune Families Act of 2012," which President Obama has vowed to sign into law. The innocuously titled bill, however, would appear to run counter to the notion of free speech that Chick-fil-A supporters purported to uphold with their presence and their record-breaking business on Aug. 1 as part of Chick-fil-A "Appreciation Day."
The new law would prohibit protesters from picketing military funerals two hours before or after a service. It also would require protestors to be at least 300 feet away from grieving family members.
The measure is targeted at the widely loathed Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan. with such signs as, "God Hates Fags," and "Thank God for dead soldiers," saying the deaths are Jehovah's Old Testament-style punishment for "the sin of homosexuality."
The church's funeral pickets, or mere threats to picket, routinely draw outraged citizens of various religious and political persuasions who form human barriers and counter-protests, as was the case
"Protests that encroach upon the funerals and burials of our fallen soldiers are repugnant and inappropriate — and they undermine the respect military families and loved ones undeniably deserve," said a statement by retiring Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, who sponsored the bill's provisions.
So-called "hate speech" can be in-your-face, as is the case with Westboro's vile antics, or it can be veiled, as arguably was the case at this past week's appreciation day, called for by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee after the firestorm created when the fast-food chain's CEO publicly stated his, his family's, and his company's antipathy towards gay marriage.
While many would argue that equating Westboro with Chick-fil-A is foolish, Christian blogger, Matthew Paul Turner, in a powerful post that went viral the day after the CFA appreciation day, nonetheless argued that the event was a sad day for American Christians, doing nothing to disprove the notion that Christians hate gays and lesbians.
"Christians all over America ignored the second greatest commandment: to love our neighbors. Call yesterday what you want, freedom of speech, a rally behind 'family values,' a sincere fascination with CFA’s brand of fried poultry… but it cannot be called love. It was not love," Turner wrote.
"People felt hate and we ignored that. At the end of the day, regardless of whether or not your Christian understanding of scripture harbors hate or not, a large group of people felt hated," Turner added. "By rallying behind CFA, Christians put an issue above people. And it’s impossible to follow Jesus when issues trump people."
For those who would argue otherwise, it doesn't help matters that Phelps and other key members of Westboro took to Twitter to trumpet and stand behind CFA. (Then again, so did the American Civil Liberties Union).
Bottom line: Even though many of CFA's supporters contended that their actions were driven as much by staunch free speech concerns as any anti-gay sentiment, it begs the question: Despite it's harsh tactics and over-the-top rhetoric, doesn't Westboro deserve the same free-speech protection and support given Chick-fil-A?
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As everyone here knows, what other method could I use to meet your request for proof? I could post links to articles with pictures of flooded homes - anyone can do that, though; that wouldn't be valid. To maintain the validity, then, I offer actual physical evidence. I find your sudden requests to this old article, in challenge to a statement I made here over two weeks ago, just to be another method of argument. Not a good one, either, since you're apparently resorting to silly requests which you won't even honor when provided with respectful response. Again, I leave my offer open to anyone.
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re: ... preach the great commission...live daily by His example. is this the great commission of the old or new testament...didn't Jesus repudiate much of the old...especially the old-T violence...eg; He replaced 'an eye for an eye' with turn the other cheek, forgive 70x7, and love yo neighbor... old-T allowed Israelites to hate their enemies and sometimes command them to slaughter them...Jesus said, “love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” http://reknew.org/2009/07/jesus-repudiation-of-old-testament-violence-2/ also raises the question, which version (old/new) should be taken literally...
is the 9th commandment included in the great commission (see above)...just wondering... Ninth Commandment: Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. (Exodus 20:16) perhaps some BO-hater christian could explain false witness and neighbor... either they have ref/links (tho not provided) to prove NOT false witness...or dont consider our president their neighbor...oror are hypocrites... all of the above, maybe...
So you stopped going to church because of that ? sounds like an excuse to justify your unbelief . Its always easy to find an excuse to quit isn't it ?
'Proverbs 6:16, These six things doth the Lord hate: a proud look, a lying tongue...A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren...' if BO-haters are not speaking lies and sowing discord, they should provide refs/links to statements they make... re: ' "Love thy neighbor as thyself".....That is speaking about thy brother or sister in Christ not some unbeliever down the street. It is thy neighbor in the faith.' review the parable of the good samaritan for interpretation of neighbor... 'Finally, a Samaritan comes by. Samaritans and Jews generally despised each other, but the Samaritan helps the injured man. Jesus is described as telling the parable in response to a question regarding the identity of the "neighbour" which Leviticus 19:18 says should be loved.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Good_Samaritan also But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, (luke 6:27) are those who mis quote Jesus false teacher...ie, ...false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies... eg, 'destructive heresies' That is speaking about thy brother or sister in Christ not some unbeliever down the street. It is thy neighbor in the faith.
probably about 50 yrs ago...religious dogmas (sounding brass and tinkling cymbals) of any organized religion and religious zealots turn me off... i prefer to take Jesus at His WORD... '...when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.' josch disagreed with the old saw: 'dont argue with idiots.' he said they should be called on their stupidity. howsoever william clark is beyond the pale and this is my last response. i believe at best WC is a biblical 'false prophet'...repeating: '...false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies...' at worst a deranged religious zealot...with no understanding of the scripture he quotes...